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damo Global Moderator


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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Cone feeders |
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Anyone had any experience using or making cone feeders? As far as I can understand they are a more subtle alternative to the modern spod and were developed years back (vague i know) by some chap from Coventry.
I know, from reading many articles of his, that Phil Smith is an advocate of the method for tench and breaming as it spreads the bait out before it lands on the water. So great for baiting over feeding fish.
What I do know is that one makes them anymore so you have to make your own.
Any ideas. _________________ damo
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Is there summat that Barbel Reaper posted up about a method of molding groundbait around the line and not in a feeder so the fish dont shy away from the feeder just a pile of bait and your hook bait. Dunno about the cone feeder though just spod abit more and will depend on how deep the water is the deeper the more spread of bait i would have thought.
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damo Global Moderator


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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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The cone spod (so as not to confuse it with a feeder in the traditional sense) is a more subtle alternative to spodding but for some reason doesn't seem to have taken off in the same way. Its far more suited to particles as as the bait is discharged above the water it fans out in a triangular fashion, the cone than lands on the water to be retrieved.
I have found an article since my first post which includes some details on how to make one. I will post something over the weekend. Seems easy enough. _________________ damo
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds interesting
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Mart Global Moderator


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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having spent hours watching people spod particles only for half of them to end up landing 10yds infront due to spod spill i always add a binder to my mix so the majority stays in until the spod hits the water, even if its on the wetter side so it clouds as it hits the water. guess it all depends on the sort of range your looking at tho best possible spread you can get is by wading and using bait spoon or an old sweet scoop but depth of water limits that method _________________ Kiss my spreader block!!!!!!!!!!
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damo Global Moderator


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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As promised details of the cone feeder. From what I can gather here is how you make one.
The cone itself is made from the cone that bulk knitting wool is wound on, or a similar article. Attach a semicircular, heavy wire loop to the wide end with about 2 inch clearance from the mouth of the cone. Then run a lenght of 25lb line through the base of the cone and attached to a polyball, cork ball etc. and glue firmly onto the point of the cone. This gives it bouyancy.
Attach a large hook, size 2, with no barb, and only enough lip on the bend to hold the wire loop during casting to the line. Lastly attach a large swivel to the end.
Easy.
For casting fill the cone no more than 3/4 full, hold the wire loop on the hook and cast. By taping the spool or casting on a clip and casting hard the cone stops flight in mid air and lands with a gentle splash on the surface. Having detached from the hook it can be easily retrieved nose first.
The advantage of this action over a traditional spod is a more gentle feeding approach and it spreads the bait as it is dispatched from the cone above the water.
The disadvantages are distance as 50yards at the edge of comfort.
So there it is, ggod for tenching and medium range carping where a bed of bait is required with minimum effort.
Anyone got any wool cones...... _________________ damo
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| If only it had been a few years ago my dad used to be a maintenance engineer at a company that made bath mats and bedspreads there was fooking thousands of them cones there on the creels.
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Mart Global Moderator


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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like a lot of hassle for what will probably be not much of an advantage over a small pocket rocket style spod _________________ Kiss my spreader block!!!!!!!!!!
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damo Global Moderator


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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: |
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The advantage is in the distribution of the bait over that of a small spod. Better at putting a proper bed of bait down rather than small islands.
Less disturbance too as the cone is empty on touch down. I believe it was originally designed for tenching allowing you to top up without the spook factor.
When I find a bloody wool cone i'll give you a demo. _________________ damo
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Mart Global Moderator


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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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have a walk round ya local market and find a craft shop/stall they might be able to help although you could do it another way find some decent plasti cut a circle then slit to centre and roll it to a cone shape practice on an old pop bottle til you perfect the shape then staple it together _________________ Kiss my spreader block!!!!!!!!!!
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